If you are in the process of upgrading to Windows 7 (64-bit) and are still using Civil 3D 2009 you might notice files take longer to save. In this example we are saving a 65mb file (very large file). To save the file to the C: drive with Civil 3D 2009 on Windows XP it takes 45 seconds. Whereas, with Civil 3D 2009 loaded on Windows 7 the same file takes 1.5 minutes to save. So essentially, the file takes twice as long to save. I have no idea why it takes longer to save, it just does. Also note, C3D 2009 is not officially supported on Win7.
However, there is a light at the end of the tunnel. Civil 3D 2011 (64-bit), with ISAVEPERCENT set to 50% – after the 1st two saves – only takes 15 seconds to save the file. So essentially it takes 1/3 of the time it took C3D 2009 to save on XP; an increase in proficiency.
After the jump see some more save-time results. Including over the LAN and WAN (w\ Riverbeds).
System Specs:
HP EliteBook 8730w
Processor = 2.66GHz – Dual Core
Memory = 8Gb of Ram
Network = 1Gbps card
TEST #1 (C: drive):
Saves were made on the C: drive (local). The same file was used for all the below tests (65mb file, exceptionally large file). No changes were made to the file between these saves and ISAVEPERCENT was set to 50% in AutoCAD.
C3D 2009
Save-times of 65mb CAD file to C: drive
1st save = (1:33)
2nd save = (1:22)
3rd save = (1:30)
4th save = (1:25)
Average = (1:27)
C3D 2011
Save-times of 65mb CAD file to C: drive
1st save = (1:13) – outlier (ISAVEPERCENT cache)
2nd save = (1:15) – outlier (ISAVEPERCENT cache)
3rd save = (0:11)
4rd save = (0:15)
5rd save = (0:14)
6th save = (0:15)
Average = (0:13) – saves are a consistent 15 seconds. A 1:30 minute improvement over C3D 2009 (600%).
TEST #2 (LAN):
Saves were made to the local network (LAN). The same file was used for all the below tests (65mb file, exceptionally large file). No changes were made to the file between these saves and ISAVEPERCENT was set to 50% in AutoCAD.
C3D 2009
Save-times of 65mb CAD file over LAN:
1st save = (1:40)
2nd save = (1:28)
3rd save = (1:34)
4th save = (1:31)
Average = (1:33)
C3D 2011
Save-times of 65mb CAD file over LAN:
1st save = (1:29) – outlier (ISAVEPERCENT cache)
2nd save = (1:33) – outlier (ISAVEPERCENT cache)
3rd save = (0:26)
4th save = (0:35)
5rd save = (0:30)
6rd save = (0:31)
Average = (0:30) – consistent 30 second saves. A 1:00 minute improvement over C3D 2009.
TEST #3 (WAN w\ Riverbeds):
Saves were made over Riverbed products (across WAN). The same file was used for all the below tests (65mb file, exceptionally large file). No changes were made to the file between these saves and ISAVEPERCENT was set to 50% in AutoCAD.
C3D 2009 – (WAN patch applied)
Save-times of 65mb CAD file over the WAN:
1st save = (7:47) – outlier (Riverbed sync.)
2nd save = (5:03)
3rd save = (3:13)
4rd save = (3:19)
Average = (3:51)
C3D 2011
Save-times of 65mb CAD file over the WAN:
1st save = (8:05) – outlier (Riverbed sync.)
2nd save = (2:04)
3rd save = (1:45)
4th save = (2:35)
5th save = (1:52)
6th save = (2:17)
Average = (2:06) – an approx. 1:10 improvement from C3D 2009 to C3D 2011.
If anyone else has some test times, post’um. I would love to compare notes.
mspatz
(P.S. This is why I’m a big believer in Vault if you want to share files across the WAN. Would you rather wait 15 seconds when you save every 10-minutes, or would you rather wait 2 minutes. Two minutes, every 10-minutes, is a very long time when you are staring at the screen.)
I ran some test on these methods of improving save time. I don’t have the exact numbers, but there is a significant difference. I’m sure most of you know these methods already.
-Unload all unnecessary xrefs and images … unload while working in a drawing and reload on final save, if necessary
-Close the layer manager
Another one, if you are using Vault across a WAN, is to check-out and then Log-out. Logging out of Vault increases your save-times dramatically in 2009. I think less in 2010/2011 but we still need to test. This is mainly due to the fact that 2009 is very ‘chatty’ with Vault in 2009. If I remember back to my tests with 2010 it was less chatty for QSAVES. Really I would love it to not communicate with Vault at all on QSAVE but I understand that it is checking check-out status, xref statuses, data-references statuses, etc…
Is there a way to get this big file available for download so I can test this with Vista x64?
Yeah, I don’t know about that. It is a very large survey we have for the regionalization of 3 wastewater treatment plant systems. Also it has all our styles, etc… in it. Let me think about it to try to figure out a way to share. If I don’t come up with anything … sorry…
Maybe just use one of your large files and run the same tests. That would be comparable in itself and against ours. Just an order of magnitude longer or short depending on the file size (assume linear relationship).
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